QURAN AND ABROGATION

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QURAN AND ABROGATION

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Out of only 114 suras in the Quran, a whopping 71 are subject to abrogation. Also see textual history of the Quran.

The bible spans a period from Moses to Jesus over 16 centuries. Over that period mankind changed from desert dwelling nomads, to advanced nations that could follow religious laws from the Sanhedrin and the civil law of kings and emperors. The Qur’an’s 71 abrogated suras occurring within the brief period of 23 years demonstrates not divine "revelation", but something very much otherwise, including the whims of it's author.

Al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh is the Arabic language book that details all of the abrogated verses, and what they have been abrogated by.

Good videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kox5XNuyb8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z2R-KVLCeg&NR=1

Naskh - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvbkzewoyao

Discussion:

http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=96.0

Surah 2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything?

Are we to believe that God was in such a state of confusion that He had to annul and replace inspired verses in the Quran?

Quran sura 2:106 (Ali) None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?

Hmmm.....not abrogated.....just........substituted.......for something better!

Like the sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Perhaps as a "better" substitute for the verse waaaay back in sura 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: ...

Also being abrogated by over 100 later verses that suggest violence against non-Muslims.

Surah 16:101 When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.

It would seem that perhaps even Mohammed knew, how the mess he made of the Quran over such a short period, would be perceived in his future.

It is important for everyone to understand The History of Mecca and the origins of Islamic "tradition".

Following from:

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/quransdoctrine.shtml

"In an attempt to polish Islam's image, Muslim activists usually quote verses from the Quran that were written in the early days of the Islamic movement while Mohammed lived in Mecca. Those passages make Islam appear loving and harmless because they call for love, peace and patience. Such is a deception. The activists fail to tell gullible people that such verses, though still in the Quran, were nullified, abrogated, rendered void by later passages that incite killing, decapitations, maiming, terrorism and religious intolerance. The latter verses were penned while Mohammed’s headquarters was based in Medina.

When speaking with people of Christianized/Western societies, Muslim activists deliberately hide a major Islamic doctrine called "al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh" (the Abrogator and the Abrogated). This simply means that in situations wherein verses contradict one another, the early verses are overridden by the latter verses. The chronological timing in which a verse was written determines its authority to establish policies within Islam. Non-Muslims cannot afford to be ignorant about the full implications of the Abrogator and the Abrogated Doctrine (al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh). When Islamic spokesmen say that Islam is a religion of peace and that the Quran does not support such things as human rights infractions, gender bias and terrorism, they are lying. This means that the Western politicians and liberal journalists, who continually spout that Islam is a noble religion of peace, are in reality propagating a deception that they have been deceived into parroting."

Islam, as usual, is it's own worst enemy. That's the problem with the opposite of truth. A tangled web of deception.

The Quran, of course, could never be "repaired". It is the repetitive record of the ramblings of a 7th century illiterate false prophet that is the opposite of what the God of the bible revealed over the 1600 year record of His Word. Islam is antichrist. It is the only anti-another-religion religion.


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Over that period mankind changed from desert dwelling nomads, to advanced nations that could follow religious laws from the Sanhedrin and the civil law of kings and emperors. The Qur’an’s 71 abrogated suras occurring within the brief period of 23 years demonstrates not divine "revelation", but something very much otherwise, including the whims of it's author. Al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh is the Arabic language book that details all of the abrogated verses, and what they have been abrogated by. Good videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kox5XNuyb8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z2R-KVLCeg&NR=1 Naskh - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvbkzewoyao Discussion: http://brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=96.0 Surah 2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything? Are we to believe that God was in such a state of confusion that He had to annul and replace inspired verses in the Quran? Quran sura 2:106 (Ali) None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things? Hmmm.....not abrogated.....just........substituted.......for something better! Like the sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them Perhaps as a "better" substitute for the verse waaaay back in sura 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: ... Also being abrogated by over 100 later verses that suggest violence against non-Muslims. Surah 16:101 When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not. It would seem that perhaps even Mohammed knew, how the mess he made of the Quran over such a short period, would be perceived in his future. It is important for everyone to understand The History of Mecca and the origins of Islamic "tradition". Following from: http://www.islamreview.com/articles/quransdoctrine.shtml "In an attempt to polish Islam's image, Muslim activists usually quote verses from the Quran that were written in the early days of the Islamic movement while Mohammed lived in Mecca. Those passages make Islam appear loving and harmless because they call for love, peace and patience. Such is a deception. The activists fail to tell gullible people that such verses, though still in the Quran, were nullified, abrogated, rendered void by later passages that incite killing, decapitations, maiming, terrorism and religious intolerance. The latter verses were penned while Mohammed’s headquarters was based in Medina. When speaking with people of Christianized/Western societies, Muslim activists deliberately hide a major Islamic doctrine called "al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh" (the Abrogator and the Abrogated). This simply means that in situations wherein verses contradict one another, the early verses are overridden by the latter verses. The chronological timing in which a verse was written determines its authority to establish policies within Islam. Non-Muslims cannot afford to be ignorant about the full implications of the Abrogator and the Abrogated Doctrine (al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh). When Islamic spokesmen say that Islam is a religion of peace and that the Quran does not support such things as human rights infractions, gender bias and terrorism, they are lying. This means that the Western politicians and liberal journalists, who continually spout that Islam is a noble religion of peace, are in reality propagating a deception that they have been deceived into parroting." Islam, as usual, is it's own worst enemy. That's the problem with the opposite of truth. A tangled web of deception. The Quran, of course, could never be "repaired". It is the repetitive record of the ramblings of a 7th century illiterate false prophet that is the opposite of what the God of the bible revealed over the 1600 year record of His Word. Islam is antichrist. It is the only anti-another-religion religion.